Done With Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell
by Sunita
Achievement unlocked. After more than a decade, I have finally read this book, thanks to Keishon. It was an up and down experience, but overall I’m glad I read it. I’m also glad I’m finally done. Reading it steadily (30-40 pages a day) worked for this style of book, with its many descriptive passages and sections that seemed to go nowhere, but it’s not my preferred way of reading.
In the end, I can see that this is an accomplished book, and I understand why so many people loved it. For me, in 2015/2016, it’s ultimately not a satisfying book. When I was looking for reviews that talked about the book the way I was experiencing it (I didn’t find many), I ran across this seminar at Crooked Timber (I must have read it when it came out, because I’ve been reading the site forever, but I don’t remember it). I found Clarke’s response post very illuminating. She seems to have been writing as much to the 19thC novel world as to the 19thC world itself. She wanted to write a book that was in line with the world created by those novels. So of course the main characters were prosperous, privileged men, and the women, servants, and nonwhite characters played subsidiary and reactive roles (I wrote briefly about my discomfort with the Stephen Black character over at Booklikes). That isn’t the whole story of the 19thC, but it is what many novels emphasize.
I also gathered from her post that what interested her most was magic. So it is an idea book in a sense (what would happen if there were magic in England again after a long hiatus and how would it re-emerge). But while the idea drives the storyline and shapes the characters, it doesn’t interact with the other elements of the novel that well. Magic wins the Napoleonic wars, but that’s it for wars. It’s part of the government’s arsenal of policies, but we don’t see details. Magic shapes character behavior, but the characters themselves aren’t that engaging or deep, at least I didn’t find them so. I could see what Strange went through, but it stayed on the page.
Clarke herself says, in her comments about the gender and class elements (no one in the seminar wrote much about the sole non-white character in terms of his race position):
I hoped that the women characters would take up more physical space on the page. (I don’t agree that that they’re not important—Arabella and Emma Pole influence the action, but they are hidden elements, part of the back-to-front story that Henry Farrell points to.) But would I change it? No. It was meant to be a story about English magic and I still think this is best way to tell that story.
So there you have it. It’s a highly readable, often engrossing book about magic, magicians, and the Faerie land beyond in early 19thC England. If you like that sort of thing, you should definitely read this book.
“She seems to have been writing as much to the 19thC novel world as to the 19thC world itself. ”
And that’s what appealed to me as much as the detailed world building. I loved the pastiche aspect because she did it so well. I also enjoyed the female characters a lot, while not being invested in the male leads at all (unusually for me.) Predictably, the TV series, which I enjoyed a great deal, chose to focus on the male characters. But I found both well done.
Eh, it would be a boring old world if we all liked the same things 😉
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Yes, it would! And I can totally understand being caught up in and enjoying it for that aspect. I am just not as big a fan of pastiche as I once was. I don’t dislike it, but it doesn’t give me the satisfaction that a story with less obvious antecedents does. Maybe because the thrill of recognizing them has worn off a bit.
I agree on the women characters, I felt they were more interesting and warmer than the men. I would have loved to have spent more time with them.
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This is a book I enjoyed, for the most part, while I was reading it. I loved the prose style, the stories in the footnotes, and the sense of eeriness. But I had some reservations all along, and in retrospect, I found it ultimately unsatisfying. One problem I had was that the war magic seemed too big and too easy. Strange moved towns and roads, and faced no meaningful opposition. It also didn’t work for me as an alternate history. They have working magic, and a Raven King reigning in the North for more than a century, and yet they’ve made it to the Napoleonic Wars with exactly the same English succession and the same relationships between Britain and the rest of Europe as in our world. And the ending itself just wasn’t satisfying to me on an emotional level.
I’m certainly not sorry I read it, but I can think of about a score of better English fantasy novels, three or four by Diana Wynne Jones alone.
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Hey, nice to see you! *waves*
Those are really good points about the way magic should have changed things more fundamentally. It’s like time-travel, where they change one thing in the future and forget about all the other ripple effects. Also, why did only England have magic? I don’t know if you’ve seen the Zen Cho book, which is a pastiche of Clarke, Heyer, Woodhouse, and her own ideas, but she has magic appearing all over the world, in different ways. I liked that approach better.
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Zen Cho book is one I shall be looking up.
Glad to have it read this book as well and mark it off my list. Thanks for reading along. We should do this again, lol.
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Definitely! If you do pick up Clarke’s short story collection, let me know and I’ll read along with you. And/or we can find another book. 😉
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I’ve read the Zen Cho book, and I found it a little bit of a disappointment. I thought the magic was indeed derivative of Clarke’s, but without that sense of eeriness. And while I liked the hero a lot, the heroine kind of left me cold. I’d read a Cho story, Monkey King, Fairy Queen, (or maybe vice versa) that I really liked, and the longer book didn’t quite measure up. You’re right, though, it did treat the rest of the world’s magic in a much more satisfying way.
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I was underwhelmed by the Cho too. I love her short stories and her novella (Jade Yeo), but this was too much of a pastiche for me. And that was before I read the Clarke. I’m hoping the next book (I think there will be another) will be more of her original stuff, because it is fantastic.
If you haven’t read her short-story collection, though, I highly recommend it. You can get a number of stories for free, but reading them as a collection is more rewarding.
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