ReaderWriterLinks
by Sunita
This week’s links lean heavily toward the Hugo awards. I’m sure most of you have read plenty about them; Robin has been providing links in several DA news posts, and Natalie has done an excellent, comprehensive job in rounding up a wide variety of reactions and canine defensive maneuvers. I’m linking to a handful of pieces that I don’t think are in either of those locations and which you may not have seen.
First up, Pep at Two Dudes in an Attic talks about the Puppies from the perspective of a white, male, Mormon reader of SFF. I found the Two Dudes blog a few months ago because Pep (I think it’s mostly Pep) wrote three great reviews of Aliette de Bodard’s fantasy trilogy. And he’s a political scientist, so his reviews sound the way I think. It’s not at all because the Dudes’ pseudonyms are Pep and Jose and the early ratings are in terms of football teams. Nope. Anyway, his take on the Hugopocalypse is pretty unambiguous:
Brad’s religion expressly forbids any sort of diversity-motivated hatred, and I have no doubt that Brad himself is a decent guy. Unfortunately, Mormons have a checkered history of racism, homophobia, and misogyny, and there is a deeply rooted strain of benevolent bigotry in Mormonism. (Full disclosure: I am Mormon myself, for those who are new to the party here, and I am allowed to say things like this. Anti-Mormon spittle flinging from anyone, no matter the political or religious affiliation, will be squashed like a loathsome cockroach.) I fear that Brad, no matter how well meaning, has a blind spot right where all the non-white, female, and/or LGBT people are, a blind spot endemic to his native culture that I am not immune to either. I don’t think he sees the full implications of what is going on here.
Worse, he refuses to repudiate the spiritual leader of Puppy-dom, the singularly distasteful Vox Day. (Speaking of loathsome cockroaches.) If the gentle reader is not acquainted with dear Vox, count your blessings. Anyone looking to be outraged is welcome to Google the man, just be ready for a shower afterwards. Possibly in hydrochloric acid.
I encourage you to read the whole thing, and to bookmark the blog. The posting schedule is erratic but the content is worth waiting for.
The second post is one Athena Andreadis linked to in one of her great posts on the Hugos. You should follow Athena’s blog too, if you aren’t. She writes about science, gender, and SFF, and she writes stories and edits SFF anthologies in her spare time (I guess days on the East Coast are longer, because that’s the only explanation). Joshua Herring takes apart Abigail Nussbaum’s troubling and confusing post about why she is going to vote No Award rather than vote for Laura Mixon. I don’t know Herring, but this is an excellent demolition of an argument that should have collapsed of its own weight:
The “bad” in Nussbaum’s argument isn’t her concern that connected people in SFF fandom get a pass on bad behavior. It’s extremely important in any community to make sure that the rules apply equally to everyone, and on one view the primary political problem is how to achieve exactly that. Rather, the “bad” is in assuming that Sriduangkaew is an easy target because she’s low-status. She’s not. She’s an easy target because she has a clearly-documented pattern of abuse that affected a lot of people in recent years. It’s fine to say that Mixon doesn’t deserve a Hugo for picking on an easy and deserving target – I would be inclined to agree with that, actually. But the implication that giving Mixon a Hugo would send some kind of signal to anyone that SFF only ever cares about abuse when it’s a low-status internet troll is not supported by the facts, and I don’t think anyone honestly has that impression. Rather, it’s just the opposite: people feel more comfortable excoriating Sriduangkaew because it happened right in plain sight. With Frenkel, there’s really only whispers. There was one concrete complaint at a convention, that complaint was responded to a bit half-heartedly, and then, after outcry from the community (a bit of a tick against the idea that the powerful are off the hook, when you think about it), responded to more severely. Otherwise, it’s just an accumulation of “trust me, I know someone who knows for sure,” which is grounds for suspicion, but isn’t evidence.
The Ugly. What really make Nussbaum’s post objectionable, though, is the rank Guilt By Association logic on display.
“Worst of all, unsurprisingly, are the comments, which confirm my impulse from back in 2012 that most of the people who would take an anti-Requires Hate stance are ones that I want nothing to do with. It takes a mere instant for someone to show up and announce that Sriduangkaew’s existence proves that all anti-racist writing is bullying. Another wonders aloud whether Sriduangkaew is “really” Asian. In her essay, Loenen-Ruiz writes that giving Mixon a Hugo demonstrates the genre community’s commitment to protecting the weak and vulnerable. I think the comments on Mixon’s report demonstrate something very different.”
Which amounts to a naked admission that Nussbaum doesn’t want Mixon’s post to win because while Sriduangkaew might be a bastard, “at least he’s our bastard.” Abuse is bad and all, mkay?, but someone questioned whether she were really Asian, and it’s like waaaaayyyy more important to me not to be associated with such people than to call out abuse you guys! But seriously, even if you think I’m exaggerating and there’s no bad guilt-by-association argument here, the logic is still downright shoddy.
Look, the Hugo award situation is a mess six ways from Sunday, as is the WF/RH/BS fallout. Both situations are creating extremely unpleasant bedfellows. But that doesn’t mean you judge the validity of an argument on the basis of who’s making it. You judge it based on the evidence presented. It’s fitting that the “he’s our bastard” quote Welling provides is from FDR, since as President he did more to create a strange-bedfellows Democratic party than anyone in its history. Sometimes, many times, that’s the coalition you get.
My last Hugo link is to a long but valuable post from one of Baen’s most prolific and successful authors, Eric Flint. The Puppies have held up the paucity of nominations from Baen as evidence that the Hugos have been hijacked from their True Roots or something to that effect. Flint blasts that argument and several others into little pieces as only a long-time, no-fucks-to-give veteran of the SFF community can. He covers a lot of ground and you should read the whole thing, so I’m only excerpting the muesli passage, which may be my favorite part:
Forty or fifty years ago—even thirty years ago, to a degree—it was quite possible for any single reader to keep on top of the entire field. You wouldn’t read every F&SF story, of course. But you could maintain a good general knowledge of the field as a whole and be at least familiar with every significant author.
Today, that’s simply impossible. Leaving aside short fiction, of which there’s still a fair amount being produced, you’d have to be able to read at least two novels a day to keep up with what’s being published—and that’s just in the United States. In reality, nobody can do it, so what happens is that over the past few decades the field has essentially splintered, from a critical standpoint.
Both of the major awards, the Hugo and the Nebula, are simple popularity contests with absolutely no requirement—or even expectation, any longer—that the voters will have read all or even most of the nominees. In the old days, that wasn’t much of a problem because you could expect that most voters were at least reasonably familiar with the authors and works under consideration. But today that’s not true at all. People routinely vote for “best novel” or “best short story” when all they’ve read is one or two of the nominees, and in many cases, have never read anything by many of the other authors nominated—not to mention being completely ignorant of other authors who never got nominated in the first place.
What happens in a situation like this is inevitable. It’s the same thing that happens in the face of any kind of sensory overload. To use a completely mundane example, the same thing that happens when someone—under instructions from a spouse to “buy some cereal”—turns their shopping cart into the aisle where cereals are sold…
And discovers that, today, there are a dozen different brands of muesli.
Whatever the hell muesli is.
Nine times out of ten, the shopper—out of self-defense—will narrow his or her focus and look for the old standby reliables. You can always count on Cheerios and corn flakes.
The same thing happens with the awards. Willy-nilly, the award-voters look for the standby reliables.
Reviews, blogs, and word-of-mouth play a big part in this, of course. Look at me: I read The Goblin Emperor because everyone was raving about it and I was curious. I don’t vote for the Hugos because I’m not a con-going type, but even if I were, I couldn’t do it justice. Sure there are people who laboriously read everything and vote in a knowledgeable way. But like many voters in political elections, low-information voters look for heuristics and informational shortcuts. And that gets you back to picking the corn flakes.
Finally, the Guardian has an article on the depressing but unsurprising conditions for POC authors. In a study commissioned by the UK writer development agency Spread the Word and contained in a report called Writing the Future, the researchers found that
the “best chance of publication” for a black, Asian or minority ethnic (BAME) writer was to write literary fiction conforming to a stereotypical view of their communities, addressing topics such as “racism, colonialism or post-colonialism as if these were the primary concerns of all BAME people”, said the report’s author Danuta Kean.
Even though the books market today is dominated by mass-market fiction, 42% of respondents from a BAME background wrote literary fiction, compared to 27% of white writers, the report found. Crime, by contrast, one of today’s biggest selling genres, only accounted for 4% of BAME novelists’ output, compared to 16% of work by white writers.
“Writers find that they are advised by agents and editors to make their manuscripts marketable in this country by upping the sari count, dealing with gang culture or some other image that conforms to white preconceptions,” writes Kean.
“Black and Asian authors complained that they were expected to portray a limited view of their own cultures or risk the accusation of inauthenticity if their characters or settings did not conform to white expectations. Failure to comply, many felt, limited their prospects of publication.”
This Catch-22 is yet another example of how POC opportunities come with strings attached: they are expected to do double duty by acting as role models through their visibility as authors, academics, etc., and information/education through the substance of their work. God forbid someone who identifies as POC should choose to work on an issue that doesn’t obviously enlighten the rest of the world about the POC experience. I’ve seen this 2-for-1 attitude in academics for decades, where POC candidates are expected to do research and teaching on identity issues. And we see it in genre fiction, too. It’s a particularly insidious form of “write what you know” that in the end narrows the range of options for writers, readers, and the world of fiction more generally.
Sorry for the downer links, everyone. At least it’s spring and the flowers are finally in bloom.
That post from Two Dudes has so much win in it. Thanks for other links too!
LikeLike
You’re welcome! You’ll enjoy Two Dudes’ reviews, I think. 😉
LikeLike
Thanks for the links, Sunita. I have really enjoyed the Athena Andreadis blog, which I started reading intermittently during the Requires Hate blowup last fall. The Two Dudes in an Attic blog link was interesting, and I may have to add that to my list of blogs I check out every once in a while. In general, the whole Sad Puppies/Hugo award/SFF has been bizarre, and has really made me back away from some blogs that I had previously appreciated, so the additional links are much appreciated.
LikeLike
I’m glad you liked them! An additional note on Eric Flint: remember VeasleyD at the AAR boards? She has coauthored with Flint, in addition to all her other impressive achievements. I miss her contributions.
LikeLike
Thank you for these links, which reinforce my desire to read more in and about SFF. The fallout around the Hugos has produced a great reading list of diverse SFF, and one thing I like about reading in that genre is that it can potentially get out of some of the traps in your last link, because people can write imagined worlds rather than being expected to represent their current reality, as seen by usually white publishing professionals. That’s a big part of my desire to read more. (So this didn’t feel like a downer even though the content of your links is often sobering.)
LikeLike
The posts are great, and you’re right, reading them isn’t a downer because they individually are enjoyable. It’s the cumulative effect that got to me as I posted them, especially that last one. I hate the fact that the things we’ve been working toward for so many years still seem so far away.
LikeLike
Thank you for the link and kind words! I have been very surprised at the reaction thus far to my post.
It is my fervent hope to upgrade the content scheduling from “erratic” to “predictable if slow.”
LikeLike
Well, it’s a great post substantively and you have a way with words. 😉
And that’s what RSS feeds are for. You aren’t even close to the most erratic in my list, and besides, I’m hardly in a position to talk. I have no schedule.
LikeLike
This Catch-22 is yet another example of how POC opportunities come with strings attached: they are expected to do double duty by acting as role models through their visibility as authors, academics, etc.,
Look at professional athletes. The minorities are more likely the ones who go into schools to tell their stories and to set up foundations for the under-privileged children. I see nothing wrong with this. Every kid needs role models. For POC kids, it’s important to have POC role models, so they can see that people with similar backgrounds as them and perhaps dealing with similar issues can still be successful. I don’t know how successful the experience would be for POC kids to have Caucasian role models show them how to overcome their circumstances and forge ahead.
Our state senator is Asian Indian and she’s the perfect example of a successful role model. She champions all minorities, and many minorities and especially children participate in her rallies, head over the state capitol for issues, etc. She’s without reserve a POC for POC.
and information/education through the substance of their work. God forbid someone who identifies as POC should choose to work on an issue that doesn’t obviously enlighten the rest of the world about the POC experience.
This is one that I find more troubling. This restriction for POC to only champion POC issues rather than more broad-based issues, or to have to educate people about their dispora rather than tell the story of multicultural society at large. I have to wonder though is it pigeonholing by societal expectations or by authors themselves. Take, for example, Jhumpa Lahiri or Salman Rushdie. They tell very Indian stories. On the other hand, Kazuo Ishiguro or Pico Iyer tell global stories.
LikeLike
“…head over TO the state capitol…”
“diaspora” not “dispora”
LikeLike
I agree on role models being important, and the social science research is supportive as well (last time I looked, anyway). I’ve certainly done my share of it with students and whether it “works” or not in the aggregate, it makes us all feel more confident.
<I have to wonder though is it pigeonholing by societal expectations or by authors themselves.
Some of both, I’m sure. Many of us want to write and research what is near and dear to us, whether we’re POC or not. The problem comes when our interests take us further away from identity issues, and suddenly people realize they had expectations about what POC research was likely to be. Rushdie is a good case in point for fiction: he hasn’t written about India for a long time, and why should he? He has many other interests and areas to explore. But he’s still considered a South Asian author. Naipaul was considered “Indian” in his early years even though he’d never lived there (his books on India were from the perspective of a part-outsider).
LikeLike
Naipaul is an interesting example. I have a friend who’s from Trinidad and partly of Trinidadian Indian descent. Because of this, she has a higher “place” in Trinidadian society. Anyway, she says that the Indians there don’t know what to do with Naipaul’s stories. They are so far removed from their own experiences.
LikeLike
Dear Sunita,
thank you for the wonderful words! The blog has been slower than I would like, partly because I’m deep into edits for the successor to The Other Half of the Sky. I also hope to have fewer disasters and more successes to discuss — the last year has not been kind to SFF.
LikeLiked by 1 person
You’re most welcome, and that’s wonderful to hear! I am very much enjoying that anthology. I’m reading it slowly, dipping in and out.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I think your point about POC authors having to write about “POC concerns” as seen by mainstream culture is right-on. I think it’s interesting, as well, that white writers can write about POC people without nearly the same backlash (I’m thinking here of Memoirs of a Geisha).
The problem of sensory overload vis a vis the Hugo and Nebula awards didn’t occur to me, mostly because I’ve had my nose buried in Romland for the last five years. But it makes sense that SFF is experiencing the same broadening as romance has and, to be honest, I think that’s a good thing. As a writer primarily of spec-fic, I experienced a lot of elitism early on from other SFF authors (for example, I can’t – and still cannot – join SFWA because, while I have published six books now, they’re not “good enough” or with the “right” publishers to be considered a professional) and the doors to Romland were open to me – and, I might add, friendly. The person who was instrumental in Rachel and I being published is another “expat” from SFF and is a moderator of a major Romland writing forum, RWA member, and scholar of women’s fiction. But we lament there aren’t more open doors in the SFF community.
To be honest, the bullshit that happened last year in the SFF-verse turned me off completely from it. Both the highly public kerfuffle, and going to a local (well, regional) science fiction convention, only to find it filled with people who were out of touch with the modern media universe. I ended up not going to any of the events at the con because the composition of the lobby completely turned me off – people that looked like they didn’t work in the “real world”, much less could understand that we have the internet now. I was profoundly disappointed. This particular con is one that won’t acknowledge that media has played a huge part in the development of SFF and that paper books are no longer the dominant force driving innovation.
I wonder if the Hugo and Nebula aren’t also, therefore, somewhat out of touch? I think it’s a bit of hubris for me to say that, standing where I am on the outside of the circle, but I do think that with such fragmentation of the genre that perhaps it’s time to rethink how we honor innovators.
I could go on, but don’t want to monopolize the conversation. 🙂
LikeLike
I think that there is more backlash than there used to be when dominant-group authors write POC characters, but it’s definitely much easier to write and sell such characters if you’re in the mainstream. A look at any genre list will confirm that.
I think Flint is right on target when he says that the SFF genre has widened and it’s harder to keep up with it. The Hugos have always been determined by a small group of voters, relative to the SFF-reading public, but as the genre has become more wide-ranging, the group of voters (or at least nominees) doesn’t seem to have shifted to the same extent.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Sadly, I wonder how relevant they are. The market has materially changed in the last five years, with the blending of the lines between romance and SFF, with ebooks, and with indie publishing. Perhaps the Hugos the way they were is no longer relevant. I say, “perhaps,” but that’s merely to soften what I’m saying, I think. I do question their relevance now, which is sad because when they were relevant, they were an excellent gauge, I felt, of quality. I don’t know what they should be replaced with, or how they should be modified, but I feel confident the market will decide. It always does. People don’t always like its decisions, but that’s the market for you. 🙂
LikeLike
There may be more crossover SFF-Romance books than we used to see, but there are still a ton of SFF books that don’t have much romance in them and they seem to sell quite well. In that sense the market seems to be able to accommodate more variety than the Hugos. My guess is that there relevance will continue to be felt in terms of library acquisitions and bookstore/library placement. In fact, unless they are completely discredited (and that will take a while), the need for informational shortcuts is greater as more books are published, so people will continue to use awards as a signal. That’s less true for the power readers, but that’s always been the case.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Good point. I’ve learned I don’t know how to predict what readers want. I worked for a year at a small, rural bookstore, (I was on sabbatical in a small town in Northern California), and the owner let the employees write reviews/staff recommendations. I wrote a thoughtful recommendation on Beryl Markham’s West With the Night, which had made a deep impression on me, and it hardly got noticed. I also poked into the NYT bestsellers, because we had shelves at the front of the store where we featured the fiction and non-fic bestsellers, and the fiction ones were, by and large, drivel. They were chicklet fictions (I don’t mean chick lit, I mean gum), generally poorly-written and poorly plotted, and I didn’t like them whatsoever.
I just thought of something I think you would like, my previous record as a recommender of books notwithstanding: Barry Hughart’s the Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox. It was the only book that had a money-back guarantee at the store, The Stars Our Destination, that used to be here in Chicago (actually Evanston, if memory serves). The owner loved the trilogy so much that she brought it back into print when it went out and gave the only money-back guarantee in the whole store. I didn’t want to read it, because I don’t generally take recommendations unless the person knows me and my taste, but I decided jeez, I’ve never heard of a money-back guarantee on a book.
Knocked.my.socks.off. Book I is Bridge of Birds, but the “Chronicles” is the omnibus edition and has the two sequels (I recommend the omnibus but if you can only find Bridge, grab it). Well worth it.
Totally not relevant to the Hugo or the Nebula, since it’s not a recent book, but hey. Squirrel.
LikeLike
I’ve been following some of the Hugopocalypse. It’s fascinating and it raises so many interesting questions. I’ll be very interested to know what the Hugos look like next year and the year after etc; what the fallout will be, what solutions, if any, people come up with.
It’s also a topic which I’m not directly involved in so I don’t agonise about it. And it makes me glad for my little corner of the Bookternet which, even carefully curated, still gets well hot enough for me from time to time.
LikeLike
Kaetrin, I love the term “bookternet.” 🙂 I agree, it will be interesting to see how/if the Hugos and Nebulas change to stay relevant, or whether there will be something totally different that fills the void and meets the needs of the readers.
LikeLike
I can’t take the credit for it – I believe it was coined by Jessica Tripler for Liz McCausland. (But I might have that the wrong way around).
LikeLike
I don’t think Jessica coined it but she did say I would never use it, so I did. (It’s handy!)
LikeLike
In ways it’s what every genre faces as the readership evolves, but we rarely get such a stark division or such a pointed controversy. I’m curious too, especially since no changes can occur without being ratified by two successive WorldCon meetings.
One thing this controversy has done is made me look harder for the books that weren’t talked about as much and weren’t nominated. There are a lot of good ones out there.
LikeLike
I can’t keep up in romance let alone any other genre. It’s just impossible for any one person/group to be across something so broad. I don’t know what the answer is for the Hugos (and fortunately it’s not my headache to deal with) but I think it will be messy for a good while yet, especially if changes take so long to be ratified.
LikeLike
The gaming of the Hugo nominations and the response to it has been interesting to behold. Thanks for the 2 dudes blog post, it was one that I hadn’t read and I found it very interesting.
I think one of the strangest things has been the canine insistence that good SF/F is wholly message-free and is making no statements on politics or cultures or how humans should interact with others or with their institutions. That seems to me bizarre beyond belief since it totally undercuts a key value of both SF & F — that of excellent world building.
Catherynne Valente raises an interesting point on her own blog to about how the canines have tried to co-opt the very language and ideas that they claim are problematical: “It’s a near intolerable amount of cognitive dissonance, and it betrays a deep confusion. The Puppies hate SJWs–those awful people who keep prattling on about inclusivity and diversity. So why in the world would they claim to support those things? Why not use some other word to describe the ballot they’ve made–strong, perhaps, or exciting?
“I suspect it’s because they know inclusivity and diversity are considered positive attributes by most people. Exclusivity and uniformity don’t sell. Despite their conviction that they are the persecuted majority, they know that no one wants to hear: we made a club so that we could be sure only people we approved politically and personally would be nominated. No one wants to hear: isn’t it nice how we’ve scrubbed the ballot of all those undesirables? Now it’s just us! What they did is unpalatable, and they know it. But now that they’ve gotten what they want, they need people to be happy about it in order for the award to have any meaning, and so they’ve grabbed the language of the enemy to praise themselves. Only it doesn’t work, because words have meanings.”
I think her point has more validity when discussing the sadder than the rabid pack — TB has been upfront since the nominations were announced that he doesn’t really care about anything except getting revenge for all perceived slights. (He really makes Iago seem like one well-adjusted human being.)
LikeLike
I couldn’t agree more on the bizarreness of seeing the canines talk about the old days of non-political SF. David Gerrold (of Star Trek fame) had the best takedown of that, I think.
I was reading the opening of Phillip K. Dick’s The Man in the High Castle last night. It’s an alternate history where the US loses WW2. No politics there, not at all. Nope.
I don’t know enough about the groups or the situation to know how connected the sad and the rabid are, but the sads’ unwillingness to distance themselves fully from rabidity and all that accompanies it makes it not really matter, except as a curiosity.
LikeLike
[…] Linkity from ReaderWriterVille. […]
LikeLike